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Darrow has ties to Humanity Front as can be seen in various titbits through out the game, like the Picus network emails. Eliza can easily paint him as a suporter or at least swayed by them. Darrow didn't specifically trigger anything on TV, he just said, here is what happens.

At which point people wnt apeshit. You have to remember that so did others around the world. When you have that kind of apidemicgoing on, people quickly stop focusing on their TVs and ratertry to survive or take advantage of such situation with riots. Basically you have chaos. It would prevent them from trying to adjust the message for their own ends. Basically denying anyone either of the endings they want, denying access for other parties to the hybrid supercomputer and not just parties inside the station, but also those that might want to use it after.

I went with Jensen's, self-destructing and all. I think Jensen died the day Sarif was originally attacked. The only thing that kept him going was getting to the bottom of the conspiracy. I think the character would have chosen the way I went as well. I see the dots. I just don't think they connect as well as you do. Why didn't they just tell Jensen when they found out about his past? It's not like background checks are illegal. Sure he might have been upset, but at least their years of resulting research would have been legal.

Assuming he consented, which I believe wouldn't be a problem considering he's willing to work security for Sarif Industries in the first place. Worthwhile to ask at least, if they were just going to do it illegally anyway. And It just seems incredibly contrived to me to think that Megan, the world's preeminent augmentation scientist, just happened cross paths with Jensen and his unique DNA, which was apparently engineered by White Helix, a subsidiary of Page's Versalife.

I think it's much more likely that she was in cahoots with some shady organization before they met. According to one of the emails, she spent her twenties in France, which if you remember from the first game is where Majestic Page and the Illuminati the DuClares have a strong presence. There were a lot of heavily auged people in Heng Sha, but I guess they were just gang members with stolen tech. Point taken. And as far as all your responses to my critiques on the ending go sorry I'm getting sick of quoting everything , I just find it a BIG stretch that people couldn't figure out Darrow triggered the event, and I don't think it's possible to convince me otherwise.

We'll just have to agree to disagree there. Anyway, my point still stands that the net result of all the endings is the same. The damage is already done so there isn't much need for anyone to adjust the message now. As for the supercomputer, surely there's better ways to destroy it than getting yourself killed in the process. If Illuminati knew at all where the DNA came from it would have been logical for them to capture Jensen at the same time, or at any time during the 6 months he has been under if Megan told them at any point.

It would have incredibly accelerated their research. The team sent after Megan and scientist simply killed him outright. As far as can be seen Megan thinks Darrow is against the powers that kidnapped them, which is why she trusts him.

Tennmuerti : Like I said, that's just really contrived. I also typed up a long response quoting your other points in the big post, but it didn't show up for some reason. I really don't feel like typing it all up again. Luccaface said:. I'm not really arguing that people don't know that he triggered it. It's pretty obvious he is involved. Just that this action can be molded into different things. Like I said before, you can make him look in cahoots with Humanity Front, hence Sarif's agenda.

Or you can tie him to bad Neurophysine shipments. And I also agreed with you that yes damage is indeed done already. The point of the endings is how to channel things from that point on.

The supercomputer controls and is tied to the entire facility, it is the only thing keeping it from collapsing to colossal and constantly shifting pressure, since the Panachea has an immense surface area, unlike a closed in submarine. Ok, I think we're just repeating ourselves now. Sarif's goal of unrestricted research is simply not plausible anymore, no matter how you spin what happened. And I still don't see why Jensen and a bunch of innocent people have to die to destroy the Hyron Core.

It's not like the goofy self-destruct button is the only way to trigger a collapse. And it's not like Darrow's confession, whatever it contains, is going to actually rid the world of augs or the Illuminati.

I think logically, Taggart gets his way no matter what, even without lying about the Neuropozyne. Honestly, I think all this multiple endings business is just a bunch of fan service for fans of the previous games. To a small degree I'd say you're right, but all three are simply forms of damage control depending on what you consider the "damage" to be - Sarif's option is a lot better for companies developing augmentations than any of the others, but it's not a total solution.

The damage is reputation and public trust. What happened to potentially millions of people still occurred, but the lashing out won't be nearly as severe as the other options. Darrow's confession would dramatically curtail augmentation and hinder the Illuminati, but not outright destroy either. And Taggart's option is perhaps the most realistic but fundamentally it's no different from the others, it just passes the blame elsewhere.

The multiple endings were justified by the fact that you saved Eliza, and "she" basically controls the media - as a favor, or perhaps because she really is in no place to judge considering what she is , you are given the last choice of how the story goes out.

Once again though i will agree, the dial-an-ending button room was pretty hokey. The final battle, too, was just weird and confusing. I actually quite liked the endings in this game, even if it seems like I'm in the minority.

I just really liked the script for each of them, Adam's words are really touching. Interestingly enough, he also makes a valid argument for each choice, none of them felt like the "bad" or "good" ending.

I went with Jensen's message. I felt like that was the most humane thing that Adam could do in that situation. Let the people decide for themselves, don't try to sway them with a particular message. Really enjoyed all of them.

I obviously went with every ending for the achievement, but my concrete choice is Jensen's. It felt the most appropriate. I liked all of the endings and chose Sarif as the one I personally agree with. All of the points people raise are totally valid, yeah it may lead to abuse of power and that sort of thing but I couldn't bring myself to limit the amazing technology that exists in that game.

If I was going to go for a different ending it would have been Taggart's. One thing I didn't understand in the game though was the sudden appearance of the human augmented machine, otherwise known as the last boss. It came so out of the blue that it took a minute to even see what was going on there. Maybe I missed some emails or personal secretaries that explained that but it's my only complaint with the game.

Giantstalker said:. That's basically what I've been trying to argue. They're all the same. The severity of what Darrow has already done overrides whatever trivial differences exist between the each option. I think you're right that Eliza being an AI justifies presenting you with a choice. I hadn't thought of that. Although it still does feel like fan service to me for the above reasons.

It's foreshadowed in some emails, diaries and also when Darrow mentions it somewhere can't recall atm what would be required to control Panchea. I like how the entire credit sequence led up to that. A great payoff for finishing the game a chilling through the credits. TheDudeOfGaming : You seem to be missing why people don't like the endings - they're terrible endings.

There's no payoff in terms of story, gameplay, or even basic eye candy and explosions. I even would've felt better with the game just ending and going straight to credits, but it's the hackneyed cliches about corporations, and the government, and how some people are better off, and how we need to remember that we're all human in the end, and blaaaaaaaarghghg.

I imagine whoever wrote the script for the endings thought that the lines sounded prophetic or profound, and that maybe people will look back upon this game in the future and go "See?!

Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Global Achievements. Echo View Profile View Posts. Just wondering which ending everyone chose and the reasons behind your choices.

I chose the illuminatti ending on my first play through. I felt personally, that augamentations should be regulated as they are indeed harmful if left uncontrolled, yet their are indeed benefits from them ie. On my second play through, I was thinking of which choice 'Adam' the character would choose based on his personallity. Showing 1 - 15 of 16 comments. I choose to tell everybodt the truth mostly because I always try to be the nice guy but on second playthrough and I gotta see the other now.

Atleast I think that was the choice to say something or not right its been sometime. Hanky View Profile View Posts. I thought the truth was the only really good option. People should know what really happened, and that augmentation can be used as a means of control. If that means they fear technology, then oh well. I find that preferable to people hacking off their own limbs just to replace them with unfeeling robot pieces.

Regardless, the people shoud know the whole story so they can make their own decisions. Kauldwin View Profile View Posts. I didn't like any of the options much.

The "truth" option seemed to me to be a very skewed version of the truth, and the idea of humanity being set back like that didn't impress me too much.

Blowing up the facility hardly seemed like a good thing to do, especially given the fact that there were pockets of survivors scattered around and given that I'd just spent a great deal of time going out of my way to neutralize the crazed augs without killing them.

I didn't really want to murder everybody on the station. I really hated Taggert, so it was difficult to consider the Illuminati's story, although I do think they have some valid points. But at the end, especially after playing the Missing Link and seeing what was going on in Rifleman Bank Station and then the Hyron project, I couldn't really see supporting them.

In the end, I went with Sarif's option. It's not the truth, it's probably not the right choice, but at the same time, I think that is the history of humans. To overreach, to strive for something. I like the last line of that cutscene: "We can become the gods we've always been striving to be.

He has faith that humanity will eventually do what is best, and that none should stand in humanity's way. Subsequent Deus Ex media confirm the collapse of Panchaea, but the specific cause of the collapse is not stated. Mary DeMarle, the lead writer for Human Revolution , has explained that all endings are consistent with the progression of the story after Human Revolution.

According to DeMarle, Panchaea was so damaged that it collapsed regardless of which ending option actually occurred, and that any message that was sent would have been ineffective due to the large number of rumors and competing messages in the aftermath of the incident.

DeMarle's resolution of the ending was confirmed in developer commentary in Prima Games' official strategy guide for Deus Ex: Mankind Divided.

Mary, the narrative director, will tell you that all endings are canon because the truth is buried and nobody really knows what truly happened that day in Panchaea. But when we were developing the endings, we felt that Jensen would choose to sink the facility, thus avoiding broadcasting perverted versions of the truth to the world. At least that was the original state of mind. Deus Ex Wiki Explore. Deus Ex series. Forum Recent blogs Policies and guidelines Simplified ruleset Image policy.

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